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    WinTURTLE is a free sofware at moment in closed source.

    (C) 2007 has been realized from NANIA Francesco Antonio (Italy , Mer? (ME) )

    Official site: http://www.winturtle.netsons.org/

    Productor: Di Giovanni Nunziata Maria.

    Sponsorized By:

    NasoSan (Flavio Santini)

    http://www.nasosan.altervista.org



    WinTURTLE is a compressor type PPM for which it has around the same speed of the
    formality compression in decompression. In compression gain fantastic results above
    all with activated solidmode.

    - Supported OS Window Professional 2000, Windows XP,Windows Vista.
    - Total and Real support for the thin files 64bit of length;
    - Solid Mode on/off;
    - Delete file from archive in normal mode;
    - Buffer of reading / writing of the Files changes:
    8MB,16MB,32MB,64MB,128MB,256MB,512MB, 1GB;
    - Memory of the Encoder 106 MB;
    - compression audio Wave;

    The system allocate 106 MB only for the Encoder for a total of 8 possible combinations of memory.

    1) 106+8 MB =114 MB
    2) 106+16 MB =122 MB
    3) 106+32 MB =140 MB
    4) 106+64 MB =170 MB
    5) 106+128 MB =234 MB
    6) 106+256 MB =362 MB
    7) 106+512 MB =618 MB
    106+1000 MB =1106 MB

    Download from :
    http://www.winturtle.netsons.org/winturtle.zip

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    Awesome! Thanks Francesco!

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    Hello everyone,

    thank you Francesco, too!

    Edit:
    I just downloaded the zip-file and had a look at it (specially the german-readme).
    Don't get me wrong, but I believe you could profit from a native speaking german hand.
    Would you mind if I try to translate from the english text above, and send you the file? If it's ok, tell me the adress please.

    Best regards!

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    Very quick test...

    ENWIK8:
    Default = 27.0 MB (28,386,320 bytes)
    Solid = 27.0 MB (28,385,937 bytes)

    Scribble.wav
    Default = 866 KB (887,485 bytes)
    Solid = 105 KB (107,775 bytes)

    All compression times were very quick.

    Can't wait for some official benchmark results!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacon
    Would you mind if I try to translate from the english text above, and send you the file?
    Its not quite English it looks like Uzbek English. I guess that only Italian is pretty correct.

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    Hello everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by encode
    ...I guess that only Italian is pretty correct.
    Thats my impression too, thats why I reach out a (hopefully) helping hand.

    Best regards!

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    Have corrected some bugs with the version 1.0.1, I hope that this time my English is best, I apologize me!

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    I would test it but I can't figure out the user interface.

    Yes, I did read the English gude and play with it for awhile. It is far from obvious. I click on DRIVE, C:, SELECT, COMPRESS, navigate to the folder to save the archive, enter a name like x.tur, at which point an error message pops up in Italian, something like NON VA BENE and the name of the first file in the folder containing the archive (with a drive letter but no path) that I didn't select, and the program exits. I have Windows XP SP2.

    How about a command line version? I think it would be a lot easier to use.

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    Click on DRIVE "c: " select c:enwik8 and press button SELECT , press button COMPRESS, open a norma windows dialog, write only x and press ok!

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    Thanks Francesco! I gave it a try...
    - I can't go to C: at all!
    - selecting my testset file by file is painful
    - neither size nor modification date are shown for ANY file
    - after start of compression one cannot see, wheter is the application still compressing or if it has frozen

    couldn't be file exploring done via standard Windows API functions?

    what I like is executable size
    (used WinTURTLE 1.0.1)

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    Reach for me this point has already been difficult in one month! I have in expectancy intention to insert a filedialog standard API but to the moment have wanted to realize him/it om this way because was simpler for me! In expectancy I will perhaps open the source and even someone will lend me a hand!

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    I face no problems with WinTURTLE! All works fine!

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    maybe francesco can rewrite turtle as a plugin for 7- zip

    some time ago i had paqar plugin for 7- zip (as a method of compression in 7z format). it didn't appeared on drop- down list on gui but it was accessible by selecting it through parameters line in add to archive dialog. maybe until now igor has better integrated plugins with gui...

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    Quick test...

    (s) = Solid ON

    A10.jpg > 834,669 (s)
    AcroRd32.exe > 1,564,126
    english.dic > 774,816
    FlashMX.pdf > 3,780,749
    FP.log > 745,442 (s)
    MSO97.dll > 1,973,619
    ohs.doc > 855,063
    rafale.bmp > 1,123,437
    vcfiu.hlp > 715,551 (s)
    world95.txt > 648,377 (s)

    Total = 13,015,849 bytes


    Single archive with all 10 SFC files:

    Default = 13,015,890 bytes

    Solid = 13,316,246 bytes


    All compression times were very fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nania Francesco Antonio
    Click on DRIVE "c: " select c:enwik8 and press button SELECT , press button COMPRESS, open a norma windows dialog, write only x and press ok!
    I am running WIndows XP SP2 as a nonprivileged user.
    I unzip winturtle.zip 1.01 to c:\tmp

    I run winturtle in c:\tmp and want to compress c:\res\enwik8

    I type "winturtle" and program opens.

    I click "drive". Several rows appear with yellow background:
    [##] C:\ NTFS
    [##] D:\ FAT32
    [##] E:\ FAT32
    up through J:\

    (C: and D: are the only valid drives. E: is the CDROM but there is no disk in. F: is the USB drive but no stick is inserted).

    I click "C:". Line changes to light blue, but nothing else happens.

    I click "select" and nothing happens.

    I click "compress". Save-as dialog box appears. I navigate to c:\tmp and type "x". Program creates file c:\tmp\x.tur. (I can check it is there, 11 bytes). Dialog box appears with title: "Compression mode", text "new archive opened", and OK button.

    I click OK. Another dialog box appears with title "NON VA BENE", text "C:\Deutsche_F?hrung.txt" and OK button. (This is the name of the first file in c:\tmp).

    I click OK and program closes.



    BTW when I type this I need to type \\ for \ otherwise \t (as in c:\tmp) changes to tab and \r changes to a carriage return.

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    Hello everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Mahoney
    I am running WIndows XP SP2 as a nonprivileged user.
    I unzip winturtle.zip 1.01 to c: mp
    Hah! What do do on my computer!? (just kidding, but its the same here with me )
    Francesco seems to have built in some features that are not common-standard:
    - If I got it right, you have to _triple_-click drive-entries!
    - "Select" marks entries, but invisible (at least for me...)
    - the dialog ("Save as...") enables you to enter a name for the archive, but it shows no special file-type (should be ".tur") . If you enter "archive-name.tur" it seems to complain about the given ending, but if you only enter "archive-name" (without ending) it works (at least for me, with archive name "Test" [greetings to the german fraction ])
    In the above example from Matt: could it be possible, that selecting drive C: and compressing it to "C:Tmpx.tur" gives the error? -> Compressing drive to subfolder on same drive? Would this work with any other compressor?
    As any other program thats published for the first time WinTurtle seems to need some further polishing.
    Nice start though!
    Edit 3: I have not been able to write a backslash into the text (path -> C:Tmpx.tur) above, allthough I edited 2 times. Sorry for that, but I tried! When editing it appears, when published, it vanishes...

    Best regards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacon
    - If I got it right, you have to _triple_-click drive-entries!
    Thats right, however when I do that on drive C, its contents only flash for a very short moment and it jumps back to drive listing

    I also tried opening drives, which contain nothing (either unformatted disk partitions or empty cd-rom drives), program then jumps into drive D: or to folder with itself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vacon
    - "Select" marks entries, but invisible (at least for me...)
    When you click on another entry, the selected entry should be colored in darker blue

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    Hello everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by Nania Francesco Antonio
    I hope that this time my English is best, I apologize me!
    No need to apologize, but maybe a reason to ask somebody to help.
    Nobody can manage everything best alone, we all have our abilities and our disabilities (except Ilia and Bulat ).
    Dont bother, if you stumble -> stand up! Just learn from live.

    Best regards!

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    Hello everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Fox
    When you click on another entry, the selected entry should be colored in darker blue
    Hmm, seems to be an argument...
    I didnt have the time yesterday to test it completly (just digged deeeep into the readme and saw no daylight for a long time... ), but it seems to me a good idea to exchange experience to learn from each other!
    Thanks Black_Fox to make this clearer!
    btw: Any idea about: Total and Real support for the thin files 64bit of length;

    Best regards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacon
    btw: Any idea about: Total and Real support for the thin files 64bit of length;
    support for compressed/archive files larger than 4 gb (standard rouyines used in 32-bit compilers lack this support so it requires using of special API for large files)

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    Hello everyone,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bulat Ziganshin
    support for compressed/archive files larger than 4 gb
    I thought about something like that too (64 gives a very strong hint to that), but since I do not speak italian and Babelfish (?) created a very special translation, I thought it would be a good idea to confirm my idea. <thinking>*Whats thin about files > 4G...?*</endofthinking>
    Thank you Bulat!

    Best regards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulat Ziganshin
    standard rouyines used in 32-bit compilers lack this support so it requires using of special API for large files
    It depends on given compiler. VC 2005 already supports 64-bit file sizes (_fseeki65(), _ftelli64(), etc.).

    With PIM I wrote a small wrapper around stdio using Windows API. Its is possible, look at VC 2005 CRT sources...


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    Quote Originally Posted by encode
    VC 2005 already supports 64-bit file sizes (_fseeki65(), _ftelli64(), etc.).
    its one of special APIs i mentioned. i also wrote my own i/o library, only for Haskell

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    For Matt I believe that you have not understood that you can sail as a normal filedialog of windows pressing more times the left button of the mouse sull' "item" -> c :. From as you have described me you were compressing all contained data in c :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Fox
    Quoting: Vacon
    - If I got it right, you have to _triple_-click drive-entries!
    Thats right, however when I do that on drive C, its contents only flash for a very short moment and it jumps back to drive listing
    After email from Nania I tried triple click on C: and got the same thing. I could not get the list of files to stay on the screen. But when I triple click on D: (or double click and one more click) the list of files stays on the screen. From there I was able to compress and extract files.

    Also if I click on a nonexistent drive like G: I get an error dialog with no way out.

    Nania, please please write a command line version. Writing a GUI correctly is much harder than writing good compression.

    Anyway if you want a GUI, here is an idea (although I dont know how to program it).

    Run install program - icon appears on desktop.

    Drag and drop a file or folder on the compressor icon - it is compressed into a new archive and placed on the desktop.

    Drag and drop a file or folder onto an archive - it is compressed and added to the archive.

    Double click on an archive. Contents appear in an Explorer type window, just as if you double click on a folder. To extract files or folders, drag them to the desktop.

    Compression and decompression do not delete the original files. To remove files from archive, select and press delete key. A popup box confirms delete.

    Double click on program icon - help window appears explaining all this (also when installing). No other features. Keep it simple.

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    I hope that this time my translator helps me! To the moment this version of WinTURTLE is rather of verifies and of test! The next version, also because have noticed that in some rare cases the program can go to crash, will be different! I will change the program in a version GUI with Consul command! And' correct that am simple and full compatible Bees! I announce therefore that only with the one stable version totally the project WinTURTLE will officially depart with back - compatibility I pour the old versions!

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    WinTURTLE 1.2 beta

    * version 1.2.0 Beta .
    -Added Standard FileDialog to compress single file;
    -Added Standard FolderDialog to compress single folder;
    -Changed Engine of compression ; require only 20MB (stable)
    -It requires very less memory!
    -more faster!

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    Great! Thanks Francesco!

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    Thanks LovePimple! HI!

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    I tried winturtle 1.2 but it has the same problem. When I click "drive" and then triple click "C:", the list of files flashes on the screen and disappears. I can only get the list to stay on the screen for D:


    Edit: I figured out to go through the menu: file/compress single file. Results are here: http://cs.fit.edu/~mmahoney/compression/text.html# 2506

    But it still does not compress as small as turtle 0.07. Maybe you could add an option to use more memory.

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