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    2019-nCoV

    Are there people from Iran active in this forum? I read rumors about 20 death (one hospital) and 2000-2500 infected in Iran, much higher as official reported (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/) any truth in that?

    I followed SK this week because the fast grow in cases but Iran can be worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportman View Post
    Are there people from Iran active in this forum? I read rumors about 20 death (one hospital) and 2000-2500 infected in Iran, much higher as official reported (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/) any truth in that?

    I followed SK this week because the fast grow in cases but Iran can be worst.
    This nCov virus threat is indeed a serious matter. There are now reports that nCov might had been intentionally designed.

    When i was with the authorities during Martial Law Cold War, we "masked" top secret intel that a nuke weapon or nuke bomb components are being transported or illegally shipped to some nations as mere "news" of biological virus spreading worldwide but actually it was nukes. For one, this will strengthen routine checks everywhere. The culprits might panic and reveal their suspicious nature and alert the authorities.

    Incidentally, amid this coronavirus outbreak that is now global, there are reports that some Chinese individuals arrived at my hometown in Masbate, Philippines as workers of a popular Philippine construction firm. These Chinese groups were reportedly rude to local Masbateños especially to women. It's like an invasion, me stating i was asked to "thwart" coronavirus or design a vaccine when i was in grade school in the 1980s, probably by Princess Anne of UK and former US Pres. Barack Obama. Well, maybe the early coronavirus strains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by compgt View Post
    This nCov virus threat is indeed a serious matter.
    Checking table 1:
    http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article...b-fea8db1a8f51
    And
    https://www.who.int/ith/2020-0901_ou...virus_in_C/en/
    http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/20...1125438971.htm

    Date, Confirmed cases, Deaths, Case fatality
    Code:
    Before Dec 31, 2019,    104,  15, 14.4%
    Jan 1–10,      2020,    653, 102, 15.6%
    Jan 11–20,     2020,  5,417, 310,  5.7%
    Jan 21–31,     2020, 26,468, 494,  1.9%
    After Feb 1,   2020, 12,030, 102,  0.8%
    I notice three things:
    104 cases and 15 deaths before Dec 31, 2019 while CN media started to write first time at Jan 9, 2020 about 15 cases.
    Death rate round 15% but then suddenly drop after this first media date.
    How quick cases grow (spread through mucous membranes, mouth, nose and eyes).

    If five countries (Iran xxxx, South Korea 204, Japan 97, Singapore 85, Hong Kong 69) get the same grow rate then this is very alarming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportman View Post
    If five countries (Iran xxxx, South Korea 204, Japan 97, Singapore 85, Hong Kong 69) get the same grow rate then this is very alarming.
    Italy can be added, same grow rate (daily doubling) as South Korea 43 cases, 2 deaths at this moment.

    Don't touch face, wash hands regular with soap, because virus is air born in spaces avoid spaces with groups of people.

    Get face masks, eye protection glass, hand gloves, protection clothing, antibacterial cleaning stuff, drinks, food and everything else you need to stay home for months, prepare for home working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportman View Post
    Italy can be added, same grow rate (daily doubling) as South Korea 43 cases, 2 deaths at this moment.
    Yes, we are rapidly moving up "the ranking".
    We know who patient 1 is (never was in China!) but not patient 0.
    Today is a bad day, 10 countries in quarantine, 2 outbreaks in 2 non-bordering areas, in some zones we are fastly closing shops/companies/schools/football games/carnivals/...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauro Vezzosi View Post
    but not patient 0.
    Looks like still not found, hope for Italy that it was a tourist and not somebody who still walk round in Italy.

    Italy passed Hong Kong:
    South Korea 433, Japan 134, Singapore 89, Italy 79, Hong Kong 70.

    Improve health as long there is time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by compgt View Post
    There are now reports that nCov might had been intentionally designed.
    No comment.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_TPjbu4FAE

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    Italy passed Singapore and Japan (patient zero still not found):
    South Korea 602, Italy 157, Japan 146, Singapore 89, Hong Kong 74.

    Real CN, IR and HK counts are probably 10-60 times higher then reported.

    Serious or critical: 20-22% (each hospital can handle only a limited amount of cases)
    Deaths: 2-15% (flu 0.1-0.2%)

    (Finger) puls oximeter round 15-20 euro for early detection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportman View Post
    I read rumors about 20 death (one hospital) and 2000-2500 infected in Iran
    Today an Iranian news agency interview with a member of parliament gave confirmation that at Feb 13, 2020 there where already 50 deaths in Iran. Patient zero was a trader who flew regular to China for work. Last week elections where not canceled, 42.6% voted (from people with vote rights).

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    Yesterday Iran Minister of Health and Medical Education signed document: 9761 infected, 468 died (4.8%).

    Prepare.

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    more people die from doctors medical treatment or the average flu than coronavirus so far. So dont stress over it since stresses what gets you more than the virus or/and can compound the issue.
    Map of people that have it, deaths, and recovered.
    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

    But some tips are

    1. Vitamin D (need k2 with it to not calcify arteries)
    2. Zinc (might need copper with it)
    3. Fulvic acid
    4. Garlic
    5. Selenium
    6. Olive leaf
    7. Oregano
    8. Colloidal silver
    9. Curcumin
    10. Licorice root
    11. Vitamin E
    12. Green tea
    13. Monolaurin
    ELDERBERRY
    ECHINACEA
    PAU D’ARCO
    ST JOHN’S WORT
    (black pepper helps absorbance over 100 or 1000 times)

    N95 Mask =95% protection at 0.3 micron to stop bacteria but not viruses (virus need sa host
    The coronavirus itself measures between .05 and 0.2 microns in diameter
    Masks wont work well on facial hair


    ​masks coated in salt could neutralize viruses like the coronavirus in 5 minute and destroyed within 30 minutes. Medical face masks can block some germs, but germs also linger on their surfaces. salt is crystalline, its hard, sharp corners can pierce viruses.

    flu virus is transported from patient to patient on droplets of excretions from sneezing and coughing. These particles are typically 5 microns or larger.

    But when the droplets dry off when on the mask it might get blown off or get passed the barrier if not destroyed.
    overall a salty humid environment at warmer climates is safer.

    for example 1000 Thread Count Tight Weave is at 3 MicronPore Size which is big
    N95 mask offers 50% better breathing than N99 masks

    Salt can be as small as 30 micron or as big as 30mm
    Also colloidal silver on masks also destroys the virus. Even Mold Spores are as small as 3 micron and Pollen is at 10 micron.

    As soon as you experience that sore, tickly feeling in your throat that precedes a full-blown cold, gargle with warm salt water.
    High-efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filters are 0.3 micron
    HEPA composed of fiberglass and possess diameters between 0.5 and 2.0. But newer versions and better.

    Reports say Asians are more vulnerable to the virus, especially a greater number of men than women in the 99 cases of 2019-nCoV infection.
    half of patients infected by 2019-nCoV hadchronic underlying diseases,mainly cardiovascular and cerebrovascular diseases and diabetes. Also elderly are susceptible

    A keto diet can help when you stop eating carbohydrates which starve out the virus.

    references
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypropylene
    https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/...95-respirators
    https://marketing.industrialspec.com...book-from-ism/
    https://www.businessinsider.com/mask...avirus-2020-2/
    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/c...nfluenza82.htm
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEPA
    https://www.businessinsider.com/wuha...fective-2020-1
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...211-7/fulltext
    https://www.envirosafetyproducts.com...ifference.html
    https://www.oransi.com/page/particle-size
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PthYoKKS6FE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_qmjTJ6RLQ
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    "Google employee in Zurich office tested positive for Corona virus.
    An investigation into the person's travel is underway."

    Compression algorithm development office?

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    Google Zürich is a major presence with several campuses and several buildings in each.

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    Perhaps many of you guys have learned this,
    but has anyone ever read this ?
    If you read, please tell how long ago. Thank you!

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    i stayed at home for nearly 2 months and working at home now. please always keep wearing face masks when you guys go out. the virus is serious, and most governments are not taking enough attention to it.

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    > i stayed at home for nearly 2 months and working at home now.
    ​I work at home from today, yesterday the Italian government has lockdown 16 million people and I am one of them.

    > please always keep wearing face masks when you guys go out.
    They cannot be found here since ~2 weeks ago.

    > the virus is serious, and most governments are not taking enough attention to it.
    I completely agree.

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    Five cases confirmed in Slovakia as of writing this. I hope that this serious disease will stay far far away from Banska Bystrica and Lovinobana where I live.

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    > the Italian government has lockdown 16 million people
    From today, the restrictions introduced only 2 days ago on a part of the population have extended to the whole Italian national territory.
    ​Speaking generally, not only governments but also a part of the population do not seem to take the situation seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauro Vezzosi View Post
    >do not seem to take the situation seriously.
    War with an invisible enemy:
    https://twitter.com/AJENews/status/1237313571916328961

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    Italy death rate 6.6% (8.5% for Lombardia):
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    I live in Guangdong province, China, where there are 1356 cases in total, but only 8 died. and the number has stopped increasing for several days. i believe there are still many cases not getting detected in Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportman View Post
    Italy death rate 6.6% (8.5% for Lombardia)
    The case fatality rate (CFR) (death / cases * 100), sometimes confused with the mortality or death rate, does not seem so simple to calculate.

    Deaths:
    • There is a delay between current deaths and related infections, you should take the current n. of dead and n. of cases of N days ago, where N is not easy to calculate.
    • Do all countries calculate death in the same way?
      Many of those who have died in Italy already suffered from serious illnesses (e.g. cancer, diabetes and heart disease) that put them in grave danger, then the virus "destabilized them".
      We include them as COVID-19 deaths (died with the virus); do all countries do the same or do they only include a healthy person who died exclusively of the virus (died for the virus)?

    Cases:
    • It also depends on the number of checks carried out.
      If you check the whole population you will have a high number of cases, including asymptomatic ones, and CFR will be small.
      If you check only the deads you will have CFR = 100%.
      For example, South Korea carries out detailed checks while Italy has carried out detailed checks only in the early days and now checks only symptomatic people.

    ​I do not write other considerations to not make the post too heavy.

    Italy's CFR, 2020/03/13, https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronav...rafica_eng.pdf
    Code:
    Age (years)   Deaths [n (%)]     CFR
    0-9                0    (0%)      0%
    10-19              0    (0%)      0%
    20-29              0    (0%)      0%
    30-39              2  (0,2%)    0,2%
    40-49              4  (0,4%)    0,2%
    50-59             24  (2,4%)    0,8%
    60-69             77  (7,6%)    2,7%
    70-79            360 (35,4%)   10,8%
    80-89            438 (43,0%)   17,5%
    >90               96  (9,4%)   21,1%
    Not reported      16  (1,6%)    2,8%
    Total            1017 (100%)    6,2%
    Links:
    - Worldometers death rate: https://www.worldometers.info/corona...us-death-rate/
    - 2019 Novel Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Data Repository by Johns Hopkins CSSE: https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19
    - Italy COVID-19 Data Repository: https://github.com/pcm-dpc/COVID-19
    - Italy COVID-19 Maps and Charts: http://arcg.is/C1unv , https://lab24.ilsole24ore.com/coronavirus/

    Quote Originally Posted by RichSelian View Post
    i believe there are still many cases not getting detected in Italy.
    Sure.
    Italy only checks the symptomatic people (~12000 swabs per day have been done in the last 3 days), now it's no longer possible to detect all the infected.
    We are still in the phase of increasing cases; it will take at least 2 weeks to see if and how the latest restrictions limit the infection.

    In the last few days Spain has significantly worsened compared to France and Germany.

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    China Wuhan government had suggested infected people stay at home and keep self-isolated, what is proved to be totally wrong. their family members get infected very soon. many people does not get treated and die hopelessly at home. I see many unofficial cases twitting there body status on Weibo, getting more and more serious, and died for "pneumonia for unknown cause" at the end.

    China wins the virus battle by the army. they quickly setup a lot of simply constructed field hospitals to received patients as many as possible. and all fevering people are recorded and kept traced. the increasing number quickly falls from thousands to less than 10 per day.

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    Angela Merkel Boris Johnson both now publicly stated 70% of population will definite be infected at some time...perhaps should now start a bush 'back fire' inject population with a weak strain or weakened strain of virus to build up immunity ! ( from people who recovered)

    ONLY VIABLE COURSE REMAINS

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    UVC light kills Coronavirus, also 70% alcohol with duluted water


    https://tekwase.com/products/wireles...8073bc70&_ss=r

    https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/2020...21727c0f4.html

    Classikool 1litre 70% alcohol on Amazon.co.uk ( only one with diluted water...most effective together) . Also get small spray bottle on Amazon

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    2019 simulation (>10:04min):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174

    Video: Oct 18, 2019, New York
    First known patient: Nov 17, 2019, 55 year old, Hubei province

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichSelian View Post
    China Wuhan government had suggested infected people stay at home and keep self-isolated, what is proved to be totally wrong. their family members get infected very soon. many people does not get treated and die hopelessly at home. I see many unofficial cases twitting there body status on Weibo, getting more and more serious, and died for "pneumonia for unknown cause" at the end.China wins the virus battle by the army. they quickly setup a lot of simply constructed field hospitals to received patients as many as possible. and all fevering people are recorded and kept traced. the increasing number quickly falls from thousands to less than 10 per day.
    I think self quarantine at home is helpful, there is less risk of infecting other people, and family members are probably already infected with a member as well.
    If a person feels sick, he is hospitalized, assuming that there is room because in some hospitals, even if expanded, places are scarce and someone dies at home.
    Here too we are trying to create a field hospital and to use a shed useful for 500 places, but it takes doctors, nurses and new machinery to be added in addition to those already in use and it takes time.

    Quote Originally Posted by LawCounsels View Post
    inject population with a weak strain or weakened strain of virus to build up immunity
    Isn't this called a vaccine? After actually finding it (it is currently still being researched), it will take months before it can be used on the population.

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